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Vol 274 No 7336 p176-177
12 February 2005

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The Society

The benefit of ignorance (Mrs A. Morant)

Let us move on! (Dr J. D. Flack)

Precise interpretations of Byelaws needed (Mr D. C. Shenton)

Do not give advice for monetary gain (Mr M. E. James)

Fellowship well earned (Mrs S. R. Weston)

A non-practising handicap (Mr D. Hollows)

The benefit of ignorance

From Mrs A. Morant, MRPharmS

I found the letter entitled “Reductio ad absurdum” (PJ, 5 February, p146) from Bruce Rhodes, where he described how he had acted as an agent provocateur and provoked a “non-practising member of the profession” to offer advice, interesting.

I have no doubt that he is correct in saying that this matter should be referred to the Statutory Committee. After all, the Royal Pharmaceutical Society must take its role of protecting the public from poor advice seriously. However, I just wonder what sanctions the Society would be able to apply? After all, in practice, there is no shortage of legitimate sources of information. As well as your community (practising) pharmacist you can, equally well, ask the filling station attendant or a supermarket cashier. Unlike non-practising pharmacists with many years of training and experience, the latter are not constrained by lack of knowledge from giving advice.

But what should a non-practising pharmacist do when “advice” is being given which is, to his or her certain knowledge, dangerous? Say “It is nothing to do with me” and walk away or step in and provide information that would ensure the safety of the individual concerned even though, to do so, would be in breach of the non-practising pharmacist’s code of conduct?

It is vital that these issues should not be swept under the carpet. By banning non-practising pharmacists from giving advice, the Society is asking — no, demanding — that they should immediately throw away that old fashioned habit of a lifetime, duty of care.

Annette Morant
Edgware, Middlesex


Let us move on!

From Dr J. D. Flack, MRPharmS

I understand the angst and dilemmas faced by colleagues from overseas, those from the industrial sector and retired and esteemed members of the Register as expressed in the plethora of letters over the past few weeks as a result of the new retention fee structure and the necessary declarations to be signed for non-practising status. I wonder, however, if there is, at best, an overreaction and, at worst, some self-indulgence bordering on what we might expect from a prima donna.

But for a short period of doing locums to supplement a meagre stipend during my PhD studies, I have been in all practical terms a non-practising pharmacist working in industry for the past 35 years, the last nine of which have been in Australia. During this time of discovering and developing new medicines there has been absolutely no requirement on me to be a member of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society in order to undertake my duties. A first degree in pharmacy and a further degree in pharmacology and the hard won knowledge acquired with them has been all that has mattered. Thus no one, ever, can remove the right for me to call myself a pharmacist — albeit non-practising — and a pharmacologist.

I did give some thought but not for too long about the declaration statement and its intentions for non-practising status. It was quite clear to me, however poorly the wording may have been, that, hand on heart, I could declare with complete integrity to be a non-practising pharmacist whether it be in the UK or Australia. If I did not believe that, why did I long ago spare the ink on my business cards of the distinguished but nevertheless cumbersome “MRPharmS” while retaining BPharm, PhD?

So why do I wish to retain my Society membership especially when overseas and industrial pharmacists have been treated with such disdain by Lambeth in recent years? Simply because I can receive The Journal to be kept informed of matters pertaining to the profession and because of the unmitigated pride I have in being a member of such a diverse and fine profession. For me, at least, this represents good value for my £46 retention fee.

Although it seems almost on every issue of concern to the membership the mandarins at HQ seem hard of hearing and, in their rather tart responses, never appear to be knowingly wrong, it seems that there might be at least indirect admittance of there having been an injustice perpetrated on overseas members. Quite out of the blue we now learn (PJ, 15 January, p51) that we will be receiving our Journal within days rather than months at no extra cost. This is indeed a welcome and timely decision. Perhaps we will now see the industrial pharmacists similarly placated with the reintroduction of the publication Industrial Pharmacist.

So let common sense and integrity of members prevail over the intent and semantics of the options and declaration on the retention form. Let us move on!

John Flack
Melbourne, Australia


Precise interpretations of Byelaws needed

From Mr D. C. Shenton, MRPharmS

The mental picture of Bruce Rhodes doing as he described in his latest letter (PJ, 5 February, p146) is welcome light relief in this awful situation — the situation in which pharmacists, eminent and ordinary, say they believe resignation is the only choice for an honourable person who refuses to be gagged by the new registration rules. Assuming he was not kidding, can the tape be made public?

Ever since the new Byelaws were first promulgated last year I have expected to see precise interpretations of the wording about giving advice. The requirements have been described as rigid, but just how rigid are they? The Secretary and Registrar did try to throw some light in her recent article (PJ, 22 January, p94) but it was light not focused enough. She wrote: “A number of pharmacists who have retired wish to continue making a contribution to society by giving advice in a personal capacity. In such a case, the distinction between practising and non-practising roles may not be clear …” Her subsequent explanation helped little.

What we need is a tabulation showing “This is practising”, “This is not”. Several criteria could be identified; examples of likely events could easily be put together and that would be most helpful.

If the Secretary and Registrar’s words “… consider whether the role is effectively a continuation of practice …” mean I should look to my experience, my limitations, my judgement and my conscience, taking each contact or enquiry on its merits and weighing the balance of public interest, then let that be clearly spelt out. Either way, I believe the anguish of many of your correspondents, who are taking absolute rigidity as established, will be resolved.

David Shenton
Staines, Middlesex


Do not give advice for monetary gain

From Mr M. E. James, FRPharmS

I am one of those concerned over the method of classification of the Register into practising and non-practising and it seems that, as time has gone on, we are in danger of making even greater fools of ourselves than first appeared. It would seem, and no one from the Society’s education department appears to have corrected the impression, that some believe that continuing professional development refers only to traditional core activities, whereas a glance at the back pages of the PJ shows clearly that such work represents a declining proportion of overall pharmaceutical activity.

There are, however, some sane voices. Past president Bill Darling (PJ, 22 January, p81) sensibly pointed out that as he was active and remunerated for what might be termed quasi-pharmaceutical activities he would define himself as “practising” and record such CPD as was appropriate to his current role. I would suggest that Trevor Jones falls into a similar category. I have no doubt that he ensures that when he gives his opinion it is valid, and based on current thinking. It also seemed from his letter (PJ, 18/25 December 2004, p882) that he was remunerated for, or at least not out of pocket as a result of, his activities, and I suggest that here is the touchstone.

At a much humbler level than both of them I am, while retired, still active in a paid part-time pharmaceutical role. I have no intention whatsoever of carrying out any duties in a community pharmacy. I have therefore paid my fees as a practising pharmacist and try to record appropriate CPD, although it includes little which might be applicable to running a community pharmacy. I agree, incidentally, with Adam Mackridge (PJ, 5 February, p147) in his comments on “Plan and record”, especially when, perhaps like Professor Jones, one has no idea what is going to be asked of one tomorrow and must “simply” read widely in order to be aware of current developments. In my own situation I am given a task and must familiarise (or refamiliarise) myself with the requirements thereof. For me, therefore, planning, recording and reflecting can be fairly straightforward.

I am, incidentally, extremely concerned at Bruce Rhodes letter (PJ, 5 February, p146). It is alarming that a former inspector should think it appropriate to act as an agent provocateur . I never thought that they behaved in this way, but now I am not so sure. Could I have an assurance that the current inspectorate do not do so, or should I include this in my CPD as experiential learning?

However, the present situation has gone beyond the ludicrous. We cannot let a situation continue whereby people of high academic distinction or who devotedly served their communities feel they cannot remain within the Society. I fail to see how we can create honorary fellows of parliamentarians, however, distinguished (PJ, 4 September 2004, p331) while losing such as those I have cited. I suggest that a way forward would be for non-practising pharmacists to have to sign a declaration that they would not offer advice for gain, unless there is some diktat from the Department of Health or the Council for Healthcare Regulatory Excellence to prevent this? And if so, we should be told. After all, it is common for retired senior civil servants to take well remunerated posts in industry, apparently on the strength of their experience.

Miall E. James
Colchester, Essex


Fellowship well earned

From Mrs S. R. Weston, FRPharmS

A small point, but may I correct Ian Caldwell’s comment (PJ, 29 January, p110) about the fellowship being awarded for those who had qualified on or before 1 February 1951. In fact I believe it was for those who had been registered as students of the Pharmaceutical Society before September 1948.

This was the year I registered but, because I had done little science, I had to start at the beginning and work my way through biology, physics and chemistry up to “subsid” level (in four terms) before enrolling at Bradford Technical College for the Inter BPharm course. I eventually passed the Chemist & Druggist and also the Pharmaceutical Qualifying examinations and it was 1954 before I qualified, after a year’s apprenticeship. I was the only one in our year who was awarded the fellowship, but felt I had really earned it.

I look forward to voting in this year’s council elections. I trust that all the nominees will state clearly what their thoughts are on the new membership fee structure and registration rules, so that the anomalies can be sorted out quickly.

Sheila Weston
Romsey, Hampshire


A non-practising handicap

From Mr D. Hollows, MRPharmS

As a dinosaur recently consigned to the scrap heap of life, I now play a fair amount of golf.

I am frequently asked by people I play with what I do (or did). Dutifully I tell them that I am a non-practising pharmacist.

Ah, they say, that explains why your handicap is not coming down.

Derek Hollows
Chelmsford, Essex

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