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Vol 274 No 7348 p542-543
7 May 2005

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Pharmacy technicians

Ridiculous argument (Mr C. O. Agomo)

Technicians must work with pharmacists to benefit patients (Ms S. Vize)

Experience as part of a pharmacy team is not enough to make you a pharmacist (Mr B. Doro)

What data suggest technicians can do job as well as pharmacists? (Mr A. J. Pothecary)

Ridiculous argument

From Mr C. O. Agomo, MRPharmS

Jackie Bayley’s argument (PJ, 23 April, p490) that, after 20 years of working as a technician, she now has a greater knowledge than a newly qualified pharmacist is ridiculous. Is her acquired knowledge in the form of work procedures and operating certain gadgets which, as would be expected, a newly qualified pharmacist will be lacking, or is she telling us that after acquiring an NVQ 3 or even an NVQ 5 certificate she knows more about the application of pharmacology, pharmaceutics, clinical pharmacy, biochemistry, physiology, anatomy, pharmacognosy and pharmaceutical chemistry to deliver the right medicines to a patient?

Such comparison is like convincing the public that after 20 years of work, a nurse becomes equivalent to a newly qualified doctor, or that, after about the same period, a court secretary becomes equivalent to a newly qualified lawyer. I do not think people will be convinced as it is only in pharmacy that such beliefs seem to exist regularly.

I recently had a situation in which a pharmacy assistant who may soon become a technician dismissed a patient who requested treatment for ringworm because she thought ringworm was similar to hookworm. When I explained that ringworm is a fungal infection that could be treated over the counter without referral to a GP she was surprised. This goes a long way to show the limitations and differences in training and, if I am right, the argument which Andrew Pothecary (PJ, 9 April, p42) was trying to convey.

There is no doubt that technicians are useful in any pharmacy set up, but their knowledge and training should be considered before allocating jobs to them. Maybe it is the similar positions and salaries offered in the public sectors to pharmacists and technicians that is helping to create this illusion, not to mention the lack of a body solely in charge of projecting the worth of pharmacists to the public without the handicaps of regulatory duties.

Whatever happens, patients seem to know the difference.

Chijioke O. Agomo
London


Technicians must work with pharmacists to benefit patients

From Ms S. Vize

It is reassuring to know there are pharmacists and technicians who enjoy successful professional relationships as part of a team, rather than competing against each other — the situation that some recent letters would suggest. I agree with Anthony Young and Joanne Cant (PJ, 23 April, p490): much of the recent correspondence has been disappointing. As stated, it should not matter who does which role, as long as personnel are qualified and competent.

Jackie Bayley (ibid, p490), speaking up for technicians, states that they would not perform a role outside their area of competence “without having knowledge to do so”. Then, however, she goes on to declare that she has “more knowledge” than a newly qualified pharmacist.

I qualified as a technician in 2002 and I am now half way through the MPharm course. It goes without saying that technicians will have more work experience than a newly qualified pharmacist, especially if they have been doing the job for 20 years. This is not helped by the lack of practice placements on most undergraduate courses.

On the question of knowledge though, I cannot agree. There is little point to a four-year degree at university if technicians have enough knowledge to do the job “as well as a pharmacist”. From the position I am in now, I can say that while I was competent enough to perform an efficient technical role, I had not received training that gave me the required skills or in-depth knowledge to perform the role of a pharmacist.

Maybe Ms Bayley should start to think outside the scope of her own practice, and consider the variety of roles that pharmacists now train to undertake.

The boundaries are fuzzy, but technicians and pharmacists can both explore new roles and this should be welcomed. Rather than declaring war on each other, we need to be working together and recognise what each other can do, for a common purpose — the benefit of the patient.

Sarah Vize
Southsea, Hampshire


Experience as part of a pharmacy team is not enough to make you a pharmacist

From Mr B. Doro

I read with surprise recent comments by some pharmacy support staff, more so that such comments come at a time when the Royal Pharmaceutical Society is developing a laudable framework for this group through voluntary registration and co-ordinated training. Some overzealous members of this group seem to be moving faster than their feet already. I am concerned because any form of pressure from within is a potential threat to the profession’s effort to advance the course of pharmacy, and may impede moves to develop roles to make use of the skills that pharmacists already possess.

In one letter (PJ, 16 April, p452), J. Gibbs concluded that she is well positioned to perform the role of a pharmacist. And Jackie Bayley (PJ, 23 April, p490) insinuated that having practised as a technician for 20 years, she is more capable than a newly qualified pharmacist. I find this claim unwarranted.

No amount of experience can make pharmacy support staff fit to assume responsibilities of a pharmacist. There is a laid down professional requirement and this is open to all. Other health professionals I know will not let go of this insult without an official response. All newly qualified health professionals (doctors, pharmacists, nurses etc) are bound to face challenges when they start to practise. This does not suggest lack of relevant knowledge, but the need to practise applying it to situations. But this transition does not take ages.

Pharmacists who only see themselves as professional dispensers must learn from these challenges and take advantage of the current move towards skill mix to trust others with the act of dispensing and to prepare themselves for the new roles evolving through the new pharmacy contract.

Bernard Doro
London


What data suggest technicians can do job as well as pharmacists?

From Mr A. J. Pothecary, MRPharmS

After reading some of the responses to my letter regarding the extended roles for technicians (PJ, 9 April, p421), I believe that I should defend my position.

My original letter did not mention technicians working in a hospital environment at all, and some of the responses seemed to have missed this point. Irrespective of how many years’ experience a pharmacy technician has, at the end of the day whether a mistake is made it is a pharmacist who will ultimately be held accountable, regardless of if they have been qualified for 10 years or 10 days.

J. Gibbs (PJ, 16 April, p452) points out that technicians are keen to perform some of the tasks of pharmacists, yet readily accept the lower wage.

The point is, technicians only perform some of the tasks — hence the lower wage. They cannot, legally, perform many of the tasks that pharmacists can.

I may not have made it clear that my concerns specifically related to technicians working, without pharmacist supervision, in extended roles. Jackie Bayley comments (PJ, 23 April, p 490) that she would not counsel patients without having the knowledge to do so, yet she claims to have heard newly qualified pharmacists “bluffing their way through queries”. Exactly how and why are technicians now qualified to make a judgement on whether or not a pharmacist knows what he or she is talking about?

As I suggested in my earlier letter, if a technician is asked by a patient they are working with (eg, in a benzodiazepine withdrawal clinic) a question which falls outside their knowledge, what do they then do? In a community or hospital pharmacy setting, it is only a minor inconvenience to refer to the ever-present pharmacist who currently is legislatively chained to his or her dispensary bench. In a GP surgery, this support will not be at hand. I am convinced that this will damage the image of that technician, the profession of pharmacy, and whatever project is being undertaken in the eyes of the patient.

I am sure that if a patient attends a technician-led clinic and presents a query that the technician is unable to answer, but which a pharmacist could have answered, that patient is unlikely to be willing to participate in future pharmaceutical care initiatives.

Jackie Bayley said she would like to see data that suggest that technicians cannot do the job as well as a pharmacist. I would like to see data that suggest technicians can do the job as well as pharmacists. Furthermore, I do not feel insecure about technicians taking over (I have actively encouraged technicians I have worked with to train as accredited checking technicians) but I am concerned about the potential impact that using technicians in these newly developing areas may have on the future development of the pharmacy profession.

Andrew Pothecary
Jersey, Channel Islands

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