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Vol 275 No 7371 p481-482
15 October 2005

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· North East London LPC (2)
· Reciprocity (2)
· Funding
· Brand swapping


Letters to the Editor

Reciprocity

Society's points are groundless (Mr I. Dean)

Challenging “English as their first language” statement (Ms K. Samuel-Smith)

Society's points are groundless

From Mr I. Dean, MRPharmS

How encouraging it was to read in Graham Phillips’ assurances (PJ, 10 September, p308) that the Royal Pharmaceutical Society is continuing to work with pharmacy regulators overseas and that Society staff will be meeting with colleagues overseas to explore mutually acceptable ways forward. Apart from that welcome news, Mr Phillips’ letter raised more questions about the Society’s policies than it provided answers.

The Society states that “existing agreements could be construed as being discriminatory and risk legal challenge” although John Ferguson’s thoroughly researched and thoughtful article (PJ, 24 September, p374 PDF (70K)) shows this statement to be groundless. Mr Ferguson cites the application for judicial review by the Court of Appeal, made by pharmacists from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. The application was heard in 2001, so presumably their Lordships had the benefit of reading the 1999 Health Act. Mr Phillips has stated that the Health Act was “a key part of our thinking”. Apparently it was not a key part of the court’s thinking.

It is hard to reconcile the Society’s assertion that the reason for its action “lies in the application of European and British legislation, legal precedents and UK Government policy” with “the current reciprocity agreements could be construed as discriminatory and risk legal challenge”. Mr Ferguson comprehensively refutes the former assertion; while, in respect of the latter, the question has already been definitively answered in the Court of Appeal and . One would have expected the Society’s legal department to have apprised Council of the court’s decision and its impact on Council’s concerns. Reliance on possible discrimination as a reason for its decision is therefore beyond disingenuousness.

“Other health care professions are neither taking nor considering similar action.” Mr Phillips claims this assertion of mine is not correct, stating that “the reverse is true and the General Medical Council and the General Dental Council have done the same thing [as the Society] recently for the same reasons”.

Try as I might, I can find no evidence that either the GMC or the GDC will institute the Society’s draconian provisions by requiring Australian doctors and dentists to undertake a university course and internship in order to be registered.

The GMC and the GDC and their Australian counterparts advise that the system known as “assessment of qualifications” continues to apply for both authorities, with an important addition: Australian doctors and dentists are now required to complete the “International English language test”. Despite the English test, the flow of doctors and dentists between Australia and the UK and vice versa is expected to continue.

“ There is a clear difference between pharmacy graduates in the UK and those from Australia and New Zealand.” Mr Phillips bases this assertion on the fact that in the UK registrants are required to be educated to master’s level whereas education in Australia and New Zealand remains at bachelor’s level. This is playing with words. The “clear difference” lies in labelling practically identical four-year degrees as a master’s degree in one country and a bachelor’s degree in the other. The core subjects are effectively the same in content, duration and rigour. The differences in non-core subjects appear to be regional and minor. In both Australia and the UK, registration as a pharmacist requires four undergraduate years, followed by 12 months of supervised practice, followed by successful completion of a registration assessment process.

On these comparisons, it is not correct for Mr Phillips to say that Australian (and New Zealand) pharmacists have received a different education from their UK counterparts. The difference, surely, is one of labelling rather than of the quality, content, rigour or duration of the pharmacy education.

Mr Phillips has been appointed chairman of the Society’s Education Committee. It is to be hoped that his responsibilities do not include the unenviable task of justifying Council’s unjustifiable decision.

John Ferguson’s timely article suggests that Council’s decision was made on grounds that were not reliable. Council should review that flawed decision and re-evaluate the advice on which it was based.

Ian Dean
North Turramurra,
New South Wales, Australia


Challenging “English as their first language” statement

From Ms K. Samuel-Smith

I write in response to Barrie Smith (PJ, 1 October, p407 PDF (160K)). While wholeheartedly agreeing with most of his comments on Australian and New Zealand pharmacists, based on my experiences both in this country and Australia, I fail to see the accuracy or relevance of his assertion that: “They also speak English as their first language.”

I have worked with Australians from Chinese, Greek, Indian and Maltese backgrounds who do not necessarily speak English at home.

I have also just carried out a straw poll among my British-qualified pharmacist colleagues, and over half of them claim a language other than English as their mother tongue.

The last time I checked, the language standard for overseas-qualified pharmacists wishing to practise pharmacy in Great Britain was still level seven of the International English Language Testing System. Requiring a pharmacist, or any employee, to demonstrate a higher level of English fluency could constitute indirect discrimination with regard to the Racial Discrimination Act 1976. In addition, the Code of Ethics requires pharmacists and other staff to be “sufficiently competent” in English, and additionally recognises that “competency in other languages common to the area is desirable”.

Mr Smith may well want to check that his apparent prejudices are not reflected in his (or his employer’s) recruitment practices.

Karen Samuel-Smith
Community Pharmacy Development Manager
Newham PCT

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